Read the following version of the myth of Tantalus:
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/t/tantalus.html
Then, in a comment, compare his punishment to Prometheus' punishment in a thoughtful response that includes at least 3 of the Ch.2 vocabulary.
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/t/tantalus.html
Then, in a comment, compare his punishment to Prometheus' punishment in a thoughtful response that includes at least 3 of the Ch.2 vocabulary.
After reading the myth of Tantalus and his egregious punishments, I still believe that Prometheus had the worse of the two consequences. Even though Tantalus was tantalized by the beautiful fruit and water which were in arms reach, Prometheus, the creator of humans, had to endure a more painful and gory punishment. The titan was chained to a mountain and daily had his liver ripped apart by an enormous eagle. On the other hand, both had to deal with the punishment of being ostracized from there home and the gods. Referring back to Tantalus, the fruits and the tempting water were both specious meaning that the items seemed so true but in reality proved to be unobtainable. Overall, the punishments of of the brave creator Prometheus continue to be the most devastating and horrific means of torture which will live on in history.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus both made egregious crimes against the gods. Tantalus punishment had more poetic justice than Prometheus’ crime. Tantalus’ punishment eventually led to the word “tantalize”. Tantalus’ punishment was however not as physically harmful as Prometheus’. If Tantalus’ had a strong mind he could ignore his hunger and be lethargic all day. Prometheus on the other hand could do nothing to stop the eagle. He couldn’t even move. The pain would not stop when the eagle flew away but it would continue into the night. Prometheus’ seemed like he had more courage and a stronger spirit so his punishment would be easier to bear. I think that Tantalus had a better and more effective punishment.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus both did actions that angered the gods. Prometheus gave the humans fire, then once the gods took the fire away from the humans, gave it back to them. Tantalus cut up his son and made him into a soup for the gods at one of their many feasts. Prometheus' punishment is to be galvanized by an eagle who eats is insides everyday. Tantalus is ostracized from his life and never able to eat or drink every again. Whether the punishments were right or wrong, both Prometheus and Tantalus received egregious punishments from the gods.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus were both severely punished by the gods. Prometheus, in my opinion, was punished for the innovative and noble act of creating humans and giving them fire. Tatalus on the other hand, was also severely punished however his crime was egregious. Tantalus made a specious attempt to feed his own son to the gods. Unfortunately, the punishment of both men was equally horrible even though Tantalus's crime was much more immoral than Prometheus's. Tantalus's punishment fit his crime, he sat in a pool of water with food right above him that constantly tantalized him since it was all just out of his reach. Prometheus was chained to a rock where each day an eagle would come and eat a part of his liver.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus both received egregious punishments that resulted in eternal torture. Despite the rhyme or reason, the two mythological characters committed crimes against the gods that resulted in strict repercussions. Prometheus was ostracized from society and sentenced to be chained to a mountain where the titan endured a harsh climate and a monstrous eagle ate his liver every day. This painful punishment was however dulled by the unique torture of Tantalus. For Tantalus was sentenced to live in water and to surround himself with fruits that he could not grasp. The water receded when he bent to drink from it, while fruits were blown just out of reach if Tantalus grabbed at them. Though both punishments were uniquely unbearable, Tantalus's was more tantalizing, as it was a constant reminder that his greatest desire was just out of grasp.
ReplyDeleteTantalus and Prometheus both passed the boundary and were punished for their machiavellian actions. Tantalus served the gods a specious meal with the ingredients of his own son. Tantalus did an egregious doing against the gods; making them eat a human. For Tantalus' punishment, was to ostracize him from eating another big feast and surrounding him with delicious water and fruit, which would lure him in and tantalizes him by receding once he tried to take a bite or drink. As for Prometheus, he dared to take some of the gods fire and sacrifice the bad bits of the animal. He was putting more effort forth to please the humans than the gods who rule over. He had an ambition for his creations to strive on Earth and would do anything for them even though there were consequences. The god punished him for making the bad choices by chaining him to a rock and having a bird eat his spleen every day. Each day it would heal once more and the bird would return for its snack.
ReplyDeleteHannah, "Machiavellian" always has to be capitalized since it comes from a proper name.
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DeleteIf I had to choose either Tantalus or Prometheus's egregious punishment, I would have to take Tantalus's. Although the fresh fruits and pure water easily tantalize his hunger, he is not undergoing any extreme physical pain, and that too every hour of the day. Besides being burnt everyday and frozen every night, a vulture tears open his body and consumes Prometheus's liver, only for it to grow back during the night for the vulture the next day. Also, I feel that Tantalus deserved a Machiavellian punishment more than Prometheus did because his wrongdoing was much worse and to a bigger extent than Prometheus's. Tantalus killed his son purely to serve to the gods, whereas Prometheus stole fire from the gods to save humankind. Tantalus did this so the gods would be pleased and would favor him more than the other mortals, but Prometheus did this so mankind would stay alive.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus both have horrific punishments. Prometheus tantalized the gods by making humans. He gave the humans fire which made them strive as a community, resulting in making the gods extremely mad. The gods were very upset so they ostracized him, locked him to a rock, and he was eaten by an eagle everyday. Tantalus was very gregarious with the gods, and took advantage of his ability to eat the food the people saved for them. The gods punishment for him was being surrounded by food and water he couldn't have.
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ReplyDeleteSorry I deleted that because of a typo. Here is the edited copy: Tantalus and Prometheus both received cruel, outlandish punishments from the gods for their Machiavellian tactics. Prometheus was ostracized and chained to Mount Caucasus, where his liver was eaten by an eagle each and every day. Tantalus murdered and dismembered his son Pelops and as a result, was placed in water neck deep with fruit seemingly within his reach, but each time he bent to drink or reached for the tantalizing fruit, it slid just out of his grasp. While both punishments are simply egregious, Tantalus's was the worser of the two for one simple reason: Prometheus was being punished for something he believed in, and that is a powerful thing. Prometheus had that chip on his shoulder, that immovable spirit, because he was standing up for what he thought was right. Tantalus was being punished for being a cannibal, something he without a doubt did not believe in as strongly as Prometheus believed humans should stand on equal ground with the gods.
ReplyDeleteTantalus and Prometheus both received and were punished for such egregious behavior. I do feel like though that Tantalus' punishment was a little overdone. Yes, their machiavellian actions did cause them to get into huge trouble, but I'm not quite understanding what an awful cruel punishment will do. I mean in reality, When one is punished.. do they fix the problem? Everyone makes mistakes in life and I feel like Tantalus' mistake was a mistake he probably wouldn't do again. I understand he mistreated and violated some rules at the dinner, but I think Zeus was overthinking this one. Prometheus suffered everyday having his liver eaten by a vulture. How Painful! Both of them were ostrichzied by the gods.
ReplyDeleteIn the myths Tantalus and Prometheus both demonstrated Machiavellian tricks towards their gods. Both were well liked at the beginning by the gods, Prometheus was able to create animals, and Tantalus was able to dine with the gods. However both took this for granted and committed an egregious crime. Prometheus stole fire from the gods, and in return was punished. His punishment was horrific, and consisted of his liver being eaten everyday and regrown so the next day it could be consumed again. Similarly, Tantalus tricked the gods during a dinner, and also was given a tantalizing punishment. He was within reach of delicious food, and natural water, but every time he attempted to eat or drink the items they would recede. Prometheus and Tantalus both thought they could deceive the gods, but ended up with an eternal harsh punishment.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus both suffered egregious punishments. They both dared to perform Machiavellian tricks, but Tantalus only disobeyed the gods once, while Prometheus fooled the Gods twice. Prometheus's punishment was to be chained to a rock and repeatedly have his liver eaten by a vulture. This is a very gory and painful punishment, but he somehow managed to stay in high spirits. Tantalus disobeyed the gods at a dinner, and they put him in a river of water with beautiful fruits above his head that appeared to be just above his reach. However, every time he would reach for the fruits or attempt to drink the water, they would move so that he couldn't have them. In the modern world, we have laconic punishments, but these punishments last for eternity. Both punishments were cruel, and very unnecessary. They can serve as a warning for us humans to not get in over our heads and mess with people with power.
ReplyDeleteIn comparison of Prometheus and Tantalus's punishment, both are appalling and gruesome. What makes tantalus's torture bad was the fact that he was tantalized by the vanishing fruit and water. In a way the gods where doing the same thing he did to them. While at his feast the gods had to sit and not eat the food even though they were hungry because it was a person. In the same way the gods allowed Tantalus to see the food and water, but not be able to eat or drink it even though he was hungry and thirsty. Although what he did was revolting, in his defense i think he did this strange act in a desperate state to get the gods to like him. Maybe he's a gregarious person, but had no one to be around.
ReplyDeletePrometheus's liver was eaten everyday repeatedly. As well as being chained to a pole and Ostracized. Both tortures have there own pain, so it goes hand and hand to which is worst.
In both of these myths the main character in the myth is being punished with tantalizing pain. I say that because Prometheus was chained to a rock and just observed life go by and his creations enjoys themselves. Just like Tantalus, he was in the water that he could not drink while struggling to grab the godly fruit which he could not eat. In the two myths the gods are saying let the special and mind-blowing things be the thing we do, and you keep in your place. No matter how hard you try to impress us or be us you will never be a equal. And that was the problem with both of them, their ego caused them to think that they were more important than they were. Which might be one of the reasons why Tantalus decided to kill and cook his son. He could have wanted to prove that he could be harsh and ruthless just like the gods seem to be like in his mind. And whats another way of being ruthless than killing and making a stew out of your son.
ReplyDeleteAlthough Prometheus and Tantalus suffered egregious consequences for their actions, their reasons were completely different. Prometheus, whose crime was not laconic, but rather much more drawn out, suffers a less horrible fate. He is able to keep his strong spirit, whereas Tantalus's tantalization is truly terrible. Tantalus must get so depressed, as he almost achieves something he desperately wants, but then is defeated again and again. Prometheus believed that his humans deserved much than they were receiving, so he tricked the gods many times in order to bring about something he believed in. He accomplished his goal, whereas Tantalus's goal, which was to become more endearing to the gods, ended in complete failure. Tantalus was much more selfish in this case, and I think deserves the worse punishment.
ReplyDeleteBoth Prometheus and Tantalus committed egregious sins that led to life-long misery. Prometheus specious trick on Zeus caused him to give Prometheus a Machiavellian consequence. In this atrocious punishment, Prometheus is chained to a boulder and a vulture eats his liver everyday. However in the Tantalus myth, Tantalus "gets a taste of his own medicine". He fed the gods his son body which resulted in a penalty; in which, he is stuck in a pool of water that disappears when he tries to drink it and a tree that produces fruits just beyond his reach. No doubt, both were incredibly harsh punishments. I think that Tantalus's mortification was more reasonable and fit for the crime that he had performed. Prometheus's punishment I thought was cruder than his crime because he stole for a good reason and in this myth Zeus doesn't hold up his words. However both of these myths are a warning to us to stay in our limits or suffer the wrath of in this case, Zeus.
ReplyDeleteThe eregious punishments that Prometheus and Tantalus endure truly difine the word torture. If I had to go with either situation,I'd be with Prometheus. Prometheus still had something to be proud of and the climax of his torture was laconic, with an eagle ripping out your liver in all. With Tantalus, his torture would end up making you laconic, the Gods not only didnt allow him to have nurishment but they tantalized him with surrounding food and water.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus were both punished for egregious acts that were seen as defying to the gods. Prometheus' specious plot was to feed the gods an ox's fats while keeping the meat for the humans on earth. Prometheus' punishment was to be tied to a boulder for eternity. While Prometheus was paying for his committing, an eagle would come down and tear his liver out, but since the liver would regenerate, the eagle came coming back. Tantalus' Machiavellian plot was to cook his own son for a dinner he would be having with the gods. The gods were repulsed at the galvanizing truth. Tantalus was tantalized for eternity with thirst and hunger. He was placed in water which would disappear if he wanted to drink it. Fruit was placed at his reach, but when he felt hunger and wanted to eat a piece of fruit, it too would disappear. The truth is, both men were ostracized from the privilege of living among the mortals.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus both had to suffer from egregious punishment, but if you had to chose one punishment that was worse I personally think Prometheus punishment was worse. Even though Tantalize was tantalized by the fruit and water, Prometheus was also not able to get food, but everyday his liver was ripped out everyday and it would heal back for the same result the next day. Both men were ostracized for eternity but I believe Prometheus's punishment was worse because of the extreme pain he would go through day after day.
ReplyDeleteIn the story of Tantalus, Tantalus must endure a tantalizing punishment because he decided to cook his own child and let the Gods commence in devouring him. In doing this, the Gods decided to punish him for his actions. He was sentenced to a prisonment of water that he wouldn't be able to drink and fruits that would always be outside his reach. This was a egregious consequence but not as bad as the one Prometheus endured. Prometheus pulled a Machiavellian manuver by tricking Zeus which, in doing so, got him chained down and assaulted by and eagle day after day. This punishment he had to go throught everyday must be one of the most painful situations possible. No way of escaping, and yet he is put through this just because he wanted to help the humans by giving them the gift of fire. Prometheus was punished more severely and he did a good thing. On the other hand, Tantalus did a horrible thing that earned him a punishment not as heart-wrenching as Prometheus.
ReplyDeleteBoth Prometheus and Tantalus end up being punished in egregious ways. Tantalus' punishment was one of tantalization, hence the name. Fruit hung just out of his reach, and water was all around him but he could not drink it. With Prometheus, his liver was eaten every day while he was chained to a post. In my opinion, this coincides with the Hammurabi code in the way that the majority of punishments end up very gory and morbid. I hate to make this laconic, but alas i must turn for the night.
ReplyDeleteFunny last sentence--be careful to capitalize "I."
DeleteTantalus and Prometheus both did egregious things that led to some of the worst possible punishments. Prometheus stole the idea of fire from the gods and gave it to the humans, but the gods quickly stole it back. While the gods warned Prometheus not to steal it again, he in turn stole it one last time and gave it to the humans. His act resulted in the horrible punishment of being tied to a wall while an eagle/vulture ate his liver. Every time his liver returned to its normal self, the vulture would return to Prometheus and eat it again. Tantalus on the other hand was attempting to be gregarious to the gods and held a feast for them. While he was trying to do his best, he became very into his feast, so he decided to murder his son and make him into a stew. When the gods found out about what Tantalus did they were galvanized and ostracized Tantalus. His punishment was that he was to remain in a pool full of water and when he tried to drink the water, there was none. He saw trees above him that bore fruit, whenever he decided he wanted to grab some fruit the fruit would get higher and higher out of reach for Tantalus to get it.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus both committed egregious crimes against the god in an attempt to defy them. Ultimately both Prometheus and Tantalus were ostracized by the gods and kicked out of society. Both crimes had to do with feeding the gods food. Prometheus attempted to feed Zeus an ox which had the meat taken from the inside of the animal. He kept the meat covered in bones and scraps for the humans. He was punished by being tied to a rock. An eagle was then allowed to eat his liver everyday for eternity. Tantalus tried to feed the gods his cooked son. He was punished by being tantalized with hunger and thirst in Tartarus. I think that Prometheus' punishment was more extreme than Tantalus' punishment. I think Tantalus deserved what he got where as Prometheus did not.
ReplyDeleteWhile Tantalus and Prometheus both faced egregious punishments for their wrong-doings, Tantalus possessed a much more mentally painful punishment. Both Prometheus and Tantalus were ostracized from their communities, yet their punishments were very different, Prometheus was plagued with having an eagle come and eat his self repairing liver once a day, a much more physical and laconic punishment than Tantalus. But Tantalus had a much more mentally hurting punishment, while Prometheus only had punishment once a day, Tantalus had to deal with food and water that was in full supply by him, yet he could eat nor drink it, a mental blow that would lead to most people going mad.
ReplyDeletePrometheus and Tantalus both, in the eyes on the gods, committed some type of crime. I personally believe that Prometheus's crime was not egregious at all, while Tantalus's crime was one of the worst crimes i could imagine. There is no logical reason for Tantalus to feed his son to the gods. Tantalus deserves to be tantalized with the fruit hanging just out of his reach and the water that he can't seem to drink. He is forced to starve for the rest of his life. Prometheus doesn't deserve his punishment for trying to help humanity by giving them fire. I think Zeus overreacted to prove his point on how he should never be disobeyed. Ostracizing Prometheus from the gods and having his liver eaten every day by a vulture seems to be a little bit over the top. Prometheus's punishment was not deserved.
ReplyDeleteIn the myths of Tantalus and Prometheus, both Machiavellian individuals tricked the gods, which ultimately leads to their ostracizing from society. Tantalus was punished in water up to his neck, however the real punishment the gods tantalize him with is that he can not drink from the water he is in, nor eat from the tree above him. Prometheus' punishment is similar, in the fact that he also is tied to a rock, with an eagle pecking at his liver for eternity. Both men suffered quite egregious punishments for their foolish trickery against the gods.
ReplyDeleteIn the myths of Tantalus and Prometheus, both have machiavellian punishments. Although Tantalus' punishment of not being able to eat the food and drink the water surrounding him was bad, i think that Prometheus' punishment was worse. Prometheus' punishment was egregious and Tantalus' punishment could even be thought of as ianoic compared to Prometheus' in my opinion. Prometheus's punishment was very long and painful while Tantalus just couldn't have the food and water, but then he could just get over it. Therefore, both punishments were cruel, but Prometheus' was worse.
ReplyDeleteThe punishments of Prometheus and Tantalus are both terrible. Tantalus is forced to stand neck deep in water and within reach of a fruit tree, while Prometheus is chained to a rock and a vulture eats his liver. Tantalus has a craving for the fruit that is tantalizingly close, but he knows deep inside he will never get it. Prometheus’s crime was that he stole the fire from the gods even though he did so to help the humans he created. Prometheus had many fatal flaws, but, in my opinion, he prevented the human race from becoming extinct. The Machiavellian Tantalus, however, did something much more egregious. He cut up his own son and fed him to the gods just to see if they detested human sacrifice.
ReplyDeletePunishments come in many shapes, sizes, and lengths of time. The two punishments in the Promtheus myth and the Tantalus myth where both brutal. I think Tantalus' punishment was the worst of the two. On one hand you have Prometheus being ostracized by being chained to a rock and getting his liver getting eaten everyday. But on the other hand you have Tantalus he gets tantalized everyday all day with food and water. Tantalus has to sit there in the water and staring at the food, being retrospective and realizing what he did was wrong.
ReplyDeleteBoth Tantalus and Prometheus committed egregious actions against the gods, however Tantalus was intentionally committing a machiavellian crime while Prometheus was just helping and improving his creations. On the other hand Prometheus' actions injured the gods on a long term scale and changed the course of history and their role of power forever, while Tantalus just insulted and infuriated the gods committed a huge crime against them, but didn't effect anyone else besides his family and the gods. Both Tantalus and Prometheus were ostracized for their actions, but Prometheus' was much harsher than Tantalus' because he was constantly being eaten by a vulture and couldn't eat either, whileTantalus was just tormented by food and water just out of his reach for and eternity.
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